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Welcome to Mostly Horror!

Sean Parker and Steve Goldberg discuss the horror genre; interviewing the amazing people who contribute to it and discussing their love for horror films, television and more!

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The Mostly Horror podcast focuses on the horror genre in all media. Hosts Sean Parker and Steven Goldberg interview artists, gamers, producers, and even fans. Fans-turned podcasters themselves, the longtime friends explore horror in film, books, TV, and more. It's scary how much they know.

Parker's horror voyage began at age 10. He walked in on his older cousin's movie party and got an eyeful of the film Scream. Scarred in a bad way but also in a good way, he couldn't stop watching. Goldberg's fixation didn't start until later, but the friends' shared interest grew. They watched together, then exchanged thoughts. Eventually, they together created the Mostly Horror podcast.

The Mostly Horror podcast features things horror fans may get excited to hear. The pair chats about topics like zombie film history. They might focus on horror-themed game releases. They also discuss TV adaptation wins and fails. There's a drive to figure out what the issues mean to horror. Listeners appreciate that they share candid opinions. Say a streaming service's new sharing rules or content offerings are stupid. These guys aren't afraid to call them out. They go into how those changes affect horror.

Sure, the tone gets silly sometimes. There's frequent giggling and digressions (hence the “mostly” in the title). But they are inspired by horror. Best of all, the longtime-friend hosts aren't afraid to put each other on the spot with questions like, “Did you cry?” (During a horror movie! ... Both have.) But that casualness is welcome amidst so much free-flowing knowledge on, well, Mostly Horror.

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187: Emily C. Hughes - Horror For Weenies

Available on 25-11-2024

187: Emily C. Hughes - Horror For Weenies

Hey Horror Fans!This week, We are joined by Emily C. Hughes, author of Horror for Weenies! In our conversation Emily shares her journey into horror, from the childhood moments that scared her away to the realization a decade later that she was hooked on the genre.We dive into the unique challenges faced by "horror weenies"—those who fear the screams on screen but still want to join the conversation as horror becomes increasingly more popular than every before. Emily’s book bridges the gap, offering readers a friendly hand as they step into the void. While we were initially hesitant about the concept of enabling spoilers, Horror for Weenies won us over with its thoughtful approach and Why It Matters sections that explore the cultural and historical significance of each film.Whether you’re a seasoned horror lover or a curious newcomer, this episode (and Emily’s book) has something for everyone so... Come Hang Out!!!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

186: The Return of CJ Leede - American Rapture

186: The Return of CJ Leede - American Rapture

Hey Horror Fans!This week on Mostly Horror, we welcome back the incredible CJ Leede, author of Maeve Fly and now American Rapture.In this conversation we dive deep into the timely themes of her latest work—a novel that explores the raw and terrifying consequences of political and social powers and pressures, especially as they impact women.The conversation couldn’t have come at a more potent moment, with Donald Trump's recent, stomach-churning victory in the 2024 election casting a shadow over rights and freedoms.We chat with CJ about everything from the dangers of groupthink to the ongoing battle for women’s bodily autonomy. Using a global, sex-crazed zombie virus outbreak as a metaphor, American Rapture tackles issues of consent, agency, and the dissection of toxic religious beliefs and systems. CJ’s knack for intertwining internal horror with searing social commentary makes her a master of the genre, and we can’t wait to dig into this latest work and more of what’s to come from her remarkable mind.Its a fun and important conversation you won't want to miss so...Come Hang Out!!!Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram & Threads: @mostlyhorrorpodTikTok & Twitter/X: @mostlyhorrorSteve: @stevenisaverage on all socialsSean: @hypocrite.ink on IG/TikTok, @hypocriteink on Twitter/XEnjoy this episode? Don't forget to subscribe, rate and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform! For early Access and ad-free episodes, subscribe on Wondery+.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

185: Scott Beck & Bryan Woods - Heretic, A Quiet Place, Haunt

185: Scott Beck & Bryan Woods - Heretic, A Quiet Place, Haunt

Hey Horror Fans!In this week’s episode, we sit down with writing and directing duo Scott Beck and Bryan Woods, the creative minds behind some of horror’s biggest recent hits. You’ll know them as the writers of A Quiet Place, the movie that made silence terrifying, and as the talents behind Haunt and The Boogeyman. All of which we chat briefly about before diving into their latest project, Heretic, a chilling new entry in their lineup that you must see if you haven't already. We explore the making of Heretic, dig into its inspiration, and talk about their journey from scripting nightmares to directing them!If you love horror and its many subgenres, from creature flicks to deeply psychological and religious horror then... Come Hang Out!!!Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram & Threads: @mostlyhorrorpodTikTok & Twitter/X: @mostlyhorrorSteve: @stevenisaverage on all socialsSean: @hypocrite.ink on IG/TikTok, @hypocriteink on Twitter/XEnjoy this episode? Don't forget to subscribe, rate and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform! For early Access and ad-free episodes, subscribe on Wondery+.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

184: Spencer Charnas - Ice Nine Kills

184: Spencer Charnas - Ice Nine Kills

Hey Horror Fans! It’s Halloween Special Part 2 time here at Mostly Horror! Steve and Sean kick things off with the latest horror news, diving into exciting updates on Aliens and Predators and what’s next for these legendary franchises. Then, Steve takes the reins solo for a chilling interview with Spencer Charnas of Ice Nine Kills!In their conversation, Spencer opens up about his early days in horror, the beginnings of Ice Nine Kills, and how his passion for horror inspired the band’s bloody and thrilling evolution! They dive into Ice Nine Kills’ recent collaboration with the Terrifier series on their new track, “The Art of Dying,” and Spencer gives us a rare look at some iconic horror props he’s collected from a franchise near and dear to most of our hearts—listen to find out from which classic series!Its a horror lovers conversation you won't want to miss so...COME HANG OUT!!!Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram & Threads: @mostlyhorrorpodTikTok & Twitter/X: @mostlyhorrorSteve: @stevenisaverage on all socialsSean: @hypocrite.ink on IG/TikTok, @hypocriteink on Twitter/XEnjoy this episode? Don't forget to subscribe, rate and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform! For early Access and ad-free episodes, subscribe on Wondery+.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

183: V/H/S Beyond - Halloween 2024!!!

183: V/H/S Beyond - Halloween 2024!!!

Happy Halloween Horror Fans!In this spooky episode of Mostly Horror, Steve and Sean kick things off with some unexpected celebrity encounters. Then of course they dive into some things you probably already know, covering Stephen King's Fairy Tale adaptation, Luca Guadagnino’s upcoming American Psycho film, and Blumhouse’s controversial partnership with Meta AI.Sean then puts on his tin foil hat to bring you updates on the real-life UFO (UAP) situation and recent government disclosures. The hosts then break down each eerie segment of newly releasedV/H/S Beyond, from alien encounters to cyborgs and furries gone wild, all with plenty of unsettling body horror!If you love horror shorts and visitors from another world then...COME HANG OUT!!!Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram & Threads: @mostlyhorrorpodTikTok & Twitter/X: @mostlyhorrorSteve: @stevenisaverage on all socialsSean: @hypocrite.ink on IG/TikTok, @hypocriteink on Twitter/XEnjoy this episode? Don't forget to subscribe, rate and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform! For early Access and ad-free episodes, subscribe on Wondery+.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

182: Dennis Widmyer & Kevin Kolsch - Starry Eyes, Pet Sematary (2019)

182: Dennis Widmyer & Kevin Kolsch - Starry Eyes, Pet Sematary (2019)

Hey Horror Fans!This week, Steve and Sean are joined by directors Dennis Widmyer and Kevin Kölsch for a deep dive into their chilling films Starry Eyes and the 2019 remake of Pet Sematary. In this episode, we explore their unique path into the film industry, what it was like to adapt one of Stephen King's most haunting stories, and the cult status Starry Eyes has achieved in the indie horror scene.The conversation covers everything from their creative process to their thoughts on modern horror, and they even drop some exclusive, breaking news that you won’t want to miss!If you're a fan of unsettling horror with a psychological edge and/or King adaptations, this one’s for you. So...Come Hang Out!!!Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram & Threads: @mostlyhorrorpodTikTok & Twitter/X: @mostlyhorrorSteve: @stevenisaverage on all socialsSean: @hypocrite.ink on IG/TikTok, @hypocriteink on Twitter/XEnjoy this episode? Don't forget to subscribe, rate and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform! For early Access and ad-free episodes, subscribe on Wondery+.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

181: Michael Felker - Things Will Be Different

181: Michael Felker - Things Will Be Different

Hey Horror Fans!This week, Steve and Sean sit down with director Michael Felker to dive into his debut feature Things Will Be Different—a captivating exploration of time travel, family, and life’s more cynical truths.In this episode, Michael unpacks the logic of time travel and how it shapes the story, while also touching on the film's deeper themes of hope, disillusionment, and family relationships. They also discuss the allure of sci-fi and sci-fi horror, and how these genres allow filmmakers to explore complex, existential ideas in a thrilling way.If you’re into sci-fi that pushes boundaries and gets you thinking, this is the episode for you. So…Come Hang Out!!!Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram & Threads: @mostlyhorrorpodTikTok & Twitter/X: @mostlyhorrorSteve: @stevenisaverage on all socialsSean: @hypocrite.ink on IG/TikTok, @hypocriteink on Twitter/XEnjoy this episode? Don't forget to subscribe, rate and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform! For early Access and ad-free episodes, subscribe on Wondery+.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

180: Greg Jardin & David Thompson - It's Whats Inside

180: Greg Jardin & David Thompson - It's Whats Inside

Hey Horror Fans!This week, Steve and Sean are joined by director Greg Jardin and actor David Thompson to dive into their latest film, It's What's Inside—a one-of-a-kind comedy-thriller that's as visually stunning as it is darkly hilarious!In this episode, Greg and David share insights into the film's daring visual style, which draws from horror but flips it on its head to create something totally fresh. They discuss the challenge of blending humor with tension, the bold cinematography that enhances the film's eerie atmosphere, and how the ensemble cast worked together seamlessly to bring this uniquely unnerving story to life. David also talks about the creative risks involved and what it was like to collaborate with such a dynamic team.If you're into visually striking films that mix humor, thrills, and suspense in unexpected ways, this episode is a must-listen. So...Come Hang Out!!!Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram & Threads: @mostlyhorrorpodTikTok & Twitter/X: @mostlyhorrorSteve: @stevenisaverage on all socialsSean: @hypocrite.ink on IG/TikTok, @hypocriteink on Twitter/XEnjoy this episode? Don't forget to subscribe, rate and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform! For early Access and ad-free episodes, subscribe on Wondery+.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

179: James Watkins, Scoot McNairy - Speak No Evil

179: James Watkins, Scoot McNairy - Speak No Evil

Hey Horror Fans!This week, Steve and Sean bring you two exciting interviews for the highly anticipated and somewhat controversial Speak No Evil!First up, director James Watkins joins the show to discuss his career in horror, with films like Eden Lake and The Woman in Black. He also delves into the fun and intriguing challenge of putting a fresh spin on the Danish cult hit Speak No Evil, offering a new perspective that sets it apart from the original.Later, actor Scoot McNairy shares his experience stepping into the world of horror, what drew him to the project, and the challenge of being part of a remake of a recent fan favorite.If you're interested in bold remakes and thought-provoking horror, this episode is a must-listen. So...Come Hang Out!!!Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram & Threads: @mostlyhorrorpodTikTok & Twitter/X: @mostlyhorrorSteve: @stevenisaverage on all socialsSean: @hypocrite.ink on IG/TikTok, @hypocriteink on Twitter/XEnjoy this episode? Don't forget to subscribe, rate and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform! For early Access and ad-free episodes, subscribe on Wondery+.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

178: Halle Berry & Alexandre Aja - Never Let Go

178: Halle Berry & Alexandre Aja - Never Let Go

Hey Horror Fans!This week, Steve and Sean are joined by the legendary Halle Berry and visionary director Alexandre Aja to discuss their thrilling new film, Never Let Go. In this exciting interview, Halle and Alexandre delve into the depths of horror as a genre, the challenges and rewards of working with child actors, and the importance of exploring the authenticity of characters in storytelling. Plus, Halle even shares a personal ghost story that you won’t want to miss!After the interview, Steve and Sean take a deep dive into the latest in the Alien franchise with a breakdown of Alien: Romulus. They explore the film’s place in the iconic series and discuss what fans can expect from this newest chapter in the terrifying saga.If you're a fan of gripping psychological horror and the ever-evolving Alien universe, you won't want to miss this episode. So...Come Hang Out!!!Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram & Threads: @mostlyhorrorpodTikTok & Twitter/X: @mostlyhorrorSteve: @stevenisaverage on all socialsSean: @hypocrite.ink on IG/TikTok, @hypocriteink on Twitter/XEnjoy this episode? Don't forget to subscribe, rate and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform! For early Access and ad-free episodes, subscribe on Wondery+.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

177: Paul Tremblay Pt ll - Horror Movie: A Novel, The Beast You Are

177: Paul Tremblay Pt ll - Horror Movie: A Novel, The Beast You Are

Hey Horror Fans!This week, Steve and Sean welcome back the incredible Paul Tremblay to the podcast! In his return, they dive into Paul’s latest works—Horror Movie: A Novel and his eerie short story collection, The Beast You Are. Together, they explore the creative process behind crafting both novels and short fiction, with plenty of chilling insights into the psychological and ambiguous horrors that Tremblay is known for.Paul shares some of the personal experiences that inspired these stories, his thoughts on balancing ambiguity in horror, playing with format in writing and spends a lot of time championing the work of many writers and film makers he loves so if you’re looking for some spooky recommendations to add to your watchlist and/or too be read pile, you won’t want to miss the picks he throws out!If you’re into thought-provoking horror that leaves a lasting impression, this one’s for you so...Come Hang Out!!!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

176: Max & Sam Eggers - The Front Room

176: Max & Sam Eggers - The Front Room

Hey Horror Fans!This week, Steve and Sean are joined by the incredibly talented brothers Max and Sam Eggers (Brothers of Robert Eggers) ! They sit down to talk about their chilling new film, The Front Room, diving into everything from their childhood ghost encounters to the deeply personal experience of caring for their ailing grandfather—a profound influence that seeps into the haunting atmosphere of their latest work.But that’s not all—Max and Sam also share stories from the set, discussing what it was like working with the phenomenal cast, including Brandy Norwood, Kathryn Hunter, and Andrew Burnap, who brought their eerie vision to life. And of course, they drop some of their favorite spooky movie recommendations that are sure to keep you up at night!If you’re into unsettling family dynamics, tales of spectral encounters, and films that blur the line between reality and nightmare, then…COME HANG OUT!!!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

175: Mikael Håfström - 1408, The Rite, Slingshot

175: Mikael Håfström - 1408, The Rite, Slingshot

Hey Sinners!This week, Steve and Sean are joined by the amazing director Mikael Håfström! They dive deep into his latest film Slingshot and explore the intense psychological thrills that make it a must-watch. But that’s not all—they also discuss that one time Anthony Hopkins was dishing out exorcisms out of his home in The Rite andddd return to the haunted halls of the Dolphin Hotel and its infamous room 1408, a movie that holds a special place in their horror-loving hearts. From crafting spine-tingling tension to working with all-star casts, Mikael gives us an inside look at his process and passion for horror!If you’re into the existentially cosmic horrors of the dark space beyond our home planet, creepy hotels, sinister spirits, and unraveling minds, then…COME HANG OUT!!!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

174: Toby Poser & John Adams - Hell Hole, Hellbender

174: Toby Poser & John Adams - Hell Hole, Hellbender

Hey Sickos!This week Steve and Sean are joined by Toby Poser and John Adams, the heads of The Adams Family, known for their eerie and punk rock DIY horror films! We dive into their latest film Hell Hole (premiering on Shudder August 23rd) and chat about everything from crafting chilling atmospheres on a budget to the family dynamic that fuels their creativity. Plus, we get into their band Hellbender and how music and film blend to create their special brand of horror.If you're a fan of unique horror and people that just say FUCK IT and make shit, then...COME HANG OUT!!!Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram & Threads: @mostlyhorrorpodTikTok & Twitter/X: @mostlyhorrorSteve: @stevenisaverage on all socialsSean: @hypocrite.ink on IG/TikTok, @hypocriteink on Twitter/XEnjoy this episode? Don't forget to subscribe, rate and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform! For early Access and ad-free episodes, subscribe on Wondery+.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

173: J.W. Ocker - The United States of Cryptids, Poe-Land

173: J.W. Ocker - The United States of Cryptids, Poe-Land

Hey Monster Hunters! This week Steve and Sean are joined by author, cryptozoologist and over all hunter of odd and peculiar things J.W. Ocker. They talk about everything from Space Clams to cursed objects, Penis Museums, Mothman Poetry, Edgar Allen Poe, how we as a society have lost the very important art of scarring the absolute hell out of children and so much more! What you got something better to do??COME HANG OUT!!!Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram & Threads: @mostlyhorrorpodTikTok & Twitter/X: @mostlyhorrorSteve: @stevenisaverage on all socialsSean: @hypocrite.ink on IG/TikTok, @hypocriteink on Twitter/XEnjoy this episode? Don't forget to subscribe, rate and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform! For early Access and ad-free episodes, subscribe on Wondery+.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

172: Tilman Singer - Cuckoo

172: Tilman Singer - Cuckoo

Hey friends!This week on Mostly Horror, Steve takes the reins for a solo interview with writer/director Tilman Singer to discuss his new film, Cuckoo! (Don't worry, Sean is still here to hang out before and after the interview, so you won't miss him too much.)Cuckoo is a wild ride that showcases Tilman's incredibly unique imagination and Steve dives deep into the process behind creating such a movie, extracting every crumb, detail and explanation possible.They chat about everything, from directing talented actors like Hunter Schafer and Dan Stevens, to pondering the general indifference of existence. (You haven't chummed around like this since college)So come hang out!!!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

171: Daniel Kokotajlo - Starve Acre

171: Daniel Kokotajlo - Starve Acre

Hey Sinners! This week Steve and Sean are joined by writer and director Daniel Kokotajlo about his new film Starve Acre staring Morfydd Clark (Saint Maud) and Matt Smith (Doctor Who). They chat about everything from deep religious trauma and the various ways we cope with grief to the process of adapting such an introspective novel and how Matt Smiths hair seems to have a mind and will of its own! If you consider yourself bitten by the folk horror bug or are just looking for a good time then,COME HANG OUT!!! Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram & Threads: @mostlyhorrorpodTikTok & Twitter/X: @mostlyhorrorSteve: @stevenisaverage on all socialsSean: @hypocrite.ink on IG/TikTok, @hypocriteink on Twitter/XEnjoy this episode? Don't forget to subscribe, rate and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform! For early Access and ad-free episodes, subscribe on Wondery+.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

170: Damian Mc Carthy, Carolyn Bracken, Gwilym Lee - Oddity

170: Damian Mc Carthy, Carolyn Bracken, Gwilym Lee - Oddity

Hey Freaks! This episode is an ODD one to say the least.. This week Steve and Sean have two separate interviews with three of the wonderful folks behind the newly released and very spooky tale known as Oddity. First they chat with the stars of the film Carolyn Bracken (You Are Not My Mother) and Gwilym Lee (Bohemian Rhapsody) about their experiences lending their talents to this haunting story;Then they are joined by writer and director Damian Mc Carthy (Caveat) where they chat about all the black magic that goes into pulling a story like this out of ones psyche. SO COME HANGOUT!!! Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram & Threads: @mostlyhorrorpodTikTok & Twitter/X: @mostlyhorrorSteve: @stevenisaverage on all socialsSean: @hypocrite.ink on IG/TikTok, @hypocriteink on Twitter/XEnjoy this episode? Don't forget to subscribe, rate and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform! For early Access and ad-free episodes, subscribe on Wondery+.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

169: LONGLEGS: A Rant

169: LONGLEGS: A Rant

Hey Freaks & Geeks!This week Steve and Sean chat about some unfortunate news both in the passing of the iconic Shelley Duval and the recent accusations against author Neil Gaiman.On a brighter note Laika Studios is branching out into live action as well which could be interesting!Then our hosts jump into the film everyone has been buzzing about.. LONGLEGS!Did Maika Monroe ever get things sorted out with whatever IT was that was following her?Did Nick Cage ever take off his LongLegs makeup after production wrapped or is he still out there somewhere..waiting..All this and more so come hangout!!!Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram & Threads: @mostlyhorrorpodTikTok & Twitter/X: @mostlyhorrorSteve: @stevenisaverage on all socialsSean: @hypocrite.ink on IG/TikTok, @hypocriteink on Twitter/XEnjoy this episode? Don't forget to subscribe, rate and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform! For early Access and ad-free episodes, subscribe on Wondery+.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

168: MAXXXINE!!!!

168: MAXXXINE!!!!

We will not accept a life we do not deserve!! And neither should you!This week Steve and Sean take a retrospective look back at the first two films of Ti West's trilogy and consider the journey as a whole with the recent release of MAXXXINE!How is her adult entertainment industry career treating her? Is she a fan of Giallo films? Did the Bates family open an Air BnB? Exactly how many degrees is Pearl from Kevin Bacon? What the hell does Richard Ramirez have to do with any of this??We ask all this and more so COME HANG OUT!!Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram & Threads: @mostlyhorrorpodTikTok & Twitter/X: @mostlyhorrorSteve: @stevenisaverage on all socialsSean: @hypocrite.ink on IG/TikTok, @hypocriteink on Twitter/XEnjoy this episode? Don't forget to subscribe, rate and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform! For early Access and ad-free episodes, subscribe on Wondery+.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.